Lets talk Health Care/Why we are going to kill old people.

[DW_Bomzin]

I don't think anybody with half a sense thinks it's free health care . We all know who is going to be paying for it, everyone .

Also who ever said it was free ? I must have missed that one somewhere .

[DW_Damaged]

I don't think anybody with half a sense thinks it's free health care . We all know who is going to be paying for it, everyone .

Also who ever said it was free ? I must have missed that one somewhere .

Actually that was more for those who think I take free insurance because my employer pays for it but I also think some people who want the government plan are under the impression they will be getting free health care. Not necessarily people posting here but people in general. Like I have said before B I know there is a problem with health care but for the sake of numbers if there are 300 million people in this country and 20-30 million don't have health then let's not reinvent the wheel let's take care of those who don't have it. It's easier to provide something for 20-30 million people than it is for 300 million.

Also the cost of medicine needs to be lower so everyone can get the meds they need and I think that can be done without involving the government.

But as some people have said I'm just a hypocrite that has no sense of humor so don't pay attention to what I say.

[JulianKingOfNothing]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWfoZQiPx-Q[/youtube]

This explains all. Watch entire vid

[DW_Bomzin]

Also the cost of medicine needs to be lower so everyone can get the meds they need and I think that can be done without involving the government.

I don't . Actually the government is part of the problem also when it comes to this . Back a couple years ago they voted , Bi-partisan to allow us to get our meds from other countries but they built a trigger into it saying that it had to be shown the foreign drugs were safe and given the ok by one of the government departments. Thinking FDA but I know it wasn't them . Guess what it was never shown that the meds they were using in say Canada were safe thusly we cannot import meds from there increasing the competition with cheaper meds thusly lowering our prices here .

Now all those great congressman can say they voted for the bill and it wasn't them not allowing more competition in the drug market and throwing it onto anther department.

The problem with the whole thing is that all 300 million are getting fleeced by the insurance companies. I don't think anyone is trying to reinvent the wheel just build a better mouse trap.
If we continue down the path we are on we are in trouble , that is not being disputed . The insurance companies are not going to fix themselves and just getting 30 million + people insurance is not the only issue. It's simply something that should be done.

If the government fixing this problem is not the answer , you trust the insurance companies to fix themselves ? If the government doesn't finally do something who is going to ?

[DW_Damaged]

If the government fixing this problem is not the answer , you trust the insurance companies to fix themselves ? If the government doesn't finally do something who is going to ?

Well do you really trust the government to do the right thing Bomzin? I mean come on the majority of the government is a big circus that has no idea who is doing what, arguing with each other like children and trying there best to walk a tight rope across an ever increasing crack in the system with as much money in their pockets as than can get. The insurance companies, the pharmaceutical companies and the government are already so corrupted and only out for themselves. So maybe a new system created by the people and for the people thats independant of all 3 of the above mentioned entities can come up with an idea that will make things better.

How much do you think the government and scientists spent trying to invent what this guy did in his garage.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2wG90QlZSU[/youtube]

or what this guy invented

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU47blakiiI[/youtube]

Creativity is the basis of who and what we are. If these guys can do this what can others do without involving the government to solve the problems with Health care.

[DW_Bomzin]

So maybe a new system created by the people and for the people thats independant of all 3 of the above mentioned entities can come up with an idea that will make things better.

How is any 3rd party entity going to compete with the situation we have at hand. I don't see it happening .

Also just because the government steps in and tries to straighten some things up with health care does not mean the end of inventions . Take a look at the military , cutting edge of Technology for our troops . Take a look at our mail system , cutting edge technology there also.

Medicare is operating just fine for millions of elderly . With the exception of financing . Thats why the old people are so upset , that someone is going to tinker with their government run health care.

Fix the financing and what the problem with medicare ?

No I do not trust the government entirely but that is besides the point . I trust our current president more then our last . To a certain extent .

Also all this talk of communism by some ,not here but this march on Washington today I do understand their fears because of all the lies but I would never stand by there side . Holding up pictures of Obama made to look like Hilter and those sort of refrences is a simple disgrace and an embarrassment to our country . These people should be ashamed of themselves .

It is because of those actions like that backed by many that it is hard to get a serious debate in Washington . They are not takin seriously except for the fact that they could be a threat , litterally .

[DW_Bomzin]

The water thing is cool , many people have been working on it .

The Pentagon is already thinking strategically about what we are going to do when we start running out of water . The process he uses I bet only works on Pure water not Salt water , that has been the kicker for some time . Also the energy it takes to make HHO may be greater then what it produces , would need to see the numbers . This guy is not the first .

We are already seeing water shortages in the world . Our next great wars will be over water in the coming decades . So running a car on water , unless we can perfect the purification of Salt water efficiently has a way to go yet I would imagine .

Natural gas is our best short term solution to our energy problems . The perfection of battery power , along with Solar and wind and possibly things yet to be discovered will be our next advancements IMHO .

[JulianKingOfNothing]

How much do you think the government and scientists spent trying to invent what this guy did in his garage.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2wG90QlZSU[/youtube]

People are working on the purifying the salt water, in ten years from now, there will be a solution for that. So with that invention also other problems will be solved. The rising sea-levels will go back down, since there will be seawater tapped. We will have new water supplies, for people to drink, wash, cook. And with this energy the greenhouse effect will back down, there will be plenty of fuel, so forget about fossils and oil-war.

But it doesn't matter, because who knows what happens after 21december 2012

[DW_Bomzin]

But it doesn't matter, because who knows what happens after 21december 2012

As far as the Mayan calendar goes , I have a theory . You had a couple of guys a very long time ago making this calender . They got to a point said screw this , if someone else wants to finish it up in the future , let them . They have had enough of calender making . :banana:

[JulianKingOfNothing]

They have had enough of calender making . :banana:

hehe xD

http://www.myfreecalendarmaker.com/
now we have to set the future.