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Re: VOTE - Wave Progression

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:40 am
by pulp
Azmodan wrote:Nah, if I look at the Tam server's ready/not ready stuff before a match it only holds up the match. (often enough I was waiting for the match to start without realizing that I was still "not ready").
With option 3, all players are assumed to be ready unless they explicitly give a 'not ready' signal. The wave would only be held up if the majority of players explicitly declared that they were not ready.
Azmodan wrote:And majority votes aren't great either. I remember several situations where people just started mapvoting instead of waiting for the 1-2 people who worked hard to survive the wave but sadly they were more then 50%.


This is wave progression voting, not map voting.
Azmodan wrote:I don't see why a wave progression system with votes should work better (next to the fact that no one but you needs it so far).
Just because I'm the only one who has suggested a different system does not mean that other players wouldn't benefit from this system. Give other players time to vote for the system they would prefer.

Re: VOTE - Wave Progression

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:50 am
by christmas
generally speaking, imo, wave-time should be edited... its too long for early waves (1-4) and very short in the last waves...considering your goal after spawn being to get some weapon and reach a hideout/safehouse.

of course, this can be achieved if you have knowledge of the map... and in all that I have to add the fact that even if you die, so what(?!?!), you get to res in the next wave, and the next after that...

so if i get a vote, i would say to keep it as is.... people who have been on the server some time know how to deal with that, and seem to be just fine by that (wave time = 10 secs). if you are new, you are expected to die more, if you do not know the map, you are expected to die more, if you are not that skilled, you are expected to die more etc, but at some point you will be on the other side, knowing how to get through with the 10sec wave-time...

that reminds me when someone, in the forums, proposed some kind of protection for low-levels(for the Monster Evo server),, so that low levels wouldnt die so easily... :scratch: :scratch: wtf?!?!!?

[offtopic]btw, a similar issue, which is actually an issue, exists on Monster Evolution server, where people get to spawn-killed very often (depending on maps too), especially people who are just connected...and to add to that, in ME you get a total of 3-4 spaws/res at best in a map which lasts 1 hour, while in MM you get 15 res for 1 hour playtime, so do the math.....
yet, no protection time (or spawn in safe-area) of any kind or any other modification took place in ME[/offtopic]

Re: VOTE - Wave Progression

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:13 am
by DW_FrankyTheFly
christmas wrote:that reminds me when someone, in the forums, proposed some kind of protection for low-levels(for the Monster Evo server),, so that low levels wouldnt die so easily... :scratch: :scratch: wtf?!?!!?

[offtopic]btw, a similar issue, which is actually an issue, exists on Monster Evolution server, where people get to spawn-killed very often (depending on maps too), especially people who are just connected...and to add to that, in ME you get a total of 3-4 spaws/res at best in a map which lasts 1 hour, while in MM you get 15 res for 1 hour playtime, so do the math.....
yet, no protection time (or spawn in safe-area) of any kind or any other modification took place in ME[/offtopic]
Yeah, some people in this world really enjoy to criticize and whine pretty much against anything instead of simply look at the problem, analyze it, find a solution with the actual system in place and try to do better next time, normally resulting in improving your self-estime and give you confidence. When you think about it further, it's exactly what makes the difference between winners and losers... interesting isn't it?

Re: VOTE - Wave Progression

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:29 pm
by DW_Wine_Flu
strongly vote #1, but ant's suggestion is ok.

Re: VOTE - Wave Progression

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:38 pm
by DW_Ant
DW_Ant wrote:I vote for 15 second wave intervals for every wave, and players are resurrected and the announcement begins at the 13 second counter.

Since that seems to be a happy medium between 30 seconds (too long in early waves) and 10 seconds (too short in later waves).
I just want to announce that this is exactly how Invasion currently works :D

We always had 15 second wave intervals!

Re: VOTE - Wave Progression

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:18 am
by DW_Wine_Flu
DW_Ant wrote:
DW_Ant wrote:I vote for 15 second wave intervals for every wave, and players are resurrected and the announcement begins at the 13 second counter.

Since that seems to be a happy medium between 30 seconds (too long in early waves) and 10 seconds (too short in later waves).
I just want to announce that this is exactly how Invasion currently works :D

We always had 15 second wave intervals!
you always give it away too soon