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okay, I recognize I make long posts...

I'll make this one quick and painless:

Alrighty the biggie map is up. The four rooms are connected nicely.
Chavez, we need you to add your room & connect it to the neutral zone. I've place a giant notepad for other things that needs to be done still ;)

I think everyone should take a peek at this one so I don't have anyone yelling at me when the final version is on the server. Let me know what you guys think. Did I make your hallways too long?? Did I connect your rooms poorly?? Did I screw up or changed your rooms too much? Is there any glitches I overlooked? Do you want a better skybox? etc...



Is this post short enough??

D2Boss wrote: I think everyone should take a peek at this one so I don't have anyone yelling at me when the final version is on the server. Let me know what you guys think. Did I make your hallways too long?? Did I connect your rooms poorly?? Did I screw up or changed your rooms too much? Is there any glitches I overlooked? Do you want a better skybox?

well i did find a few things when i ran threw it quickly i only looked at it for a few min, but you have your level info set to lastman standing instead of DM, idk if you did this on purpose or not, but makes it a pain in the ass when trying to test it LOL :tongue: every time i launch my game it rolls to the next map because it sees me as the "last one" and being the winner lol

also in one of your "water tunnles" there is a huge ice static mesh sticking through...now its not major but idk if u intended it there or not also i would have to suggest either "closing off" both reloads and mine "rooms" on the top to eliminate the back drop problem, because no only in both of those rooms does it look like you are looking out on a tropical area, but it also allow's the sunlight lighting effects in which makes shards room and my room overly bright to the point where it was semi hurting my eyes lol also a bit of the sound effects may be on the loud end, but thats all a matter of personal preference.

Draco wrote:well i did find a few things when i ran threw it quickly i only looked at it for a few min, but you have your level info set to lastman standing instead of DM

Opps sorry about that. Since it takes awhile to build the map I often forget to set the gametype. I always forfeit the LMS & jump straight to instant action.

Draco wrote:also in one of your "water tunnles" there is a huge ice static mesh sticking through...now its not major but idk if u intended it there or not

hehe, I was thinking about moving it, but I had to find some way to show that the water is freezing...
Then I just changed the fog color & forgot about that mesh altogether.
I admit, I was very lazy on the water part. I should of placed trimming improved lighting, floating bits, bubble emitters, & even a better texture.

Draco wrote:also i would have to suggest either "closing off" both reloads and mine "rooms" on the top to eliminate the back drop problem, because no only in both of those rooms does it look like you are looking out on a tropical area,

You see the rainforest from there?? o.O

Draco wrote:but it also allow's the sunlight lighting effects in which makes shards room and my room overly bright to the point where it was semi hurting my eyes lol

Luckly, Reload's room is basically unlit.
Your room seems to bit brighter than the original though. I don't think isolating your room will fix that since they are already separated zones with a lengthy buffer zone.
Shard isn't affected at all. Since he didn't place a fakebackdrop, sunlight actors fail to light up his room. I think Shards signs are a bit dark. Should we light them up alittle?

Draco wrote:also a bit of the sound effects may be on the loud end, but thats all a matter of personal preference.

ohhh. I know why everything is blasting. Ever since I came to vent, I lowered my UT volume to 10%. So I hear barely anything while you may hear blasting :X

Sorry about that, that'll get quiet next time the map is edited...I hope.



I've noticed your last screenshot. That skybox looks horrible with the crease there. Maxing your texture quality makes that crease invisible. I didn't think lower texture quality will be that bad. Do you want me fix ya a new skybox with a skyring instead??

Sorry for the epically late reply, but I finally reached the end of your post! (I'm pretty sure I completed Lord of the Rings faster :P )

Firstly, thanks for the great work on my room and the hallways - I was expecting rectangles, not what you've produced :cheers:

D2Boss wrote:I'm working on the final touches of this giant map. Chavez, I hope you're almost done with your room.

Where is mr. Chavez??

D2Boss wrote:Have we came up with a title yet?? Check out Karma's ideas here:
http://clandw.org/distribution/viewtopi ... a&start=60

I don't know about you but I'm leaning towards DM-MappersFolly :P

Well, we want a name that sounds interesting but something normal players will actually vote for...therefore I'd suggest something like MappersQuilt.

D2Boss wrote:Should we have miniboss??

If we do have a mini boss I think it should go to one of these two places:
Neutral zone:
I've created a room that branches off into 3 hallways (or four depending what Chavez does). It's about 1024 uu tall, & there's enough space to battle. If no one is at the room, the mini boss will teleport into a room, right??
-OR-
Shard's Room:
Shard is a giant stadium. It's fitting to place a boss there ^.^

As superchav discovered with 'Teh Base of Heroes', you can't tell the miniboss where to spawn - it spawns just like any other creature. I think it would be worth putting in though.

D2Boss wrote:Reload, I've attached your room & it fits nicely, but I'm sorry to say that your sniper mover isn't working for me. The thing is that once I moved your entire room, all movers are displaced. Doors & simple movers I can patch up easily, however the sniper mover has 24 keyframes & I have no idea where it goes.
I hate to say this but when Chavez sends us the copy (after he attaches his room), do you think you can reposition every keyframe once more time??

If Reload hasn't gone to the trouble of this yet, I discovered with my room that if you move the mover at position 0, everything stays relative instead of going back to the original place...

D2Boss wrote:

Draco wrote:but it also allow's the sunlight lighting effects in which makes shards room and my room overly bright to the point where it was semi hurting my eyes lol

Luckly, Reload's room is basically unlit.
Your room seems to bit brighter than the original though. I don't think isolating your room will fix that since they are already separated zones with a lengthy buffer zone.
Shard isn't affected at all. Since he didn't place a fakebackdrop, sunlight actors fail to light up his room. I think Shards signs are a bit dark. Should we light them up alittle?

Personally I thought it was Reload's and Draco's which were too bright. If you want to brighten my signs, their light sources are Special Lit, so whatever you set it to it won't affect the rest of the room...or at least I hope it won't :)


Couple of other errors: Water tunnel near your room
Entrance to my room

Few other minor things:

• I noticed the lighting on my movers has gone back to effectively unlit. When I figure out how to fix it I'll tell you.
• The tunnel between the neutral room and Reload's room is a bit long, and I was running out of oxygen near the end. I imagine players would hide in the 'grate room' too.
• Could you change the ZoneInfo Location in my room to something like "40 Shards' Demolition Derby"? (no underscore btw)

Shards

40 Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:Have we came up with a title yet?? Check out Karma's ideas here:
http://clandw.org/distribution/viewtopi ... a&start=60

I don't know about you but I'm leaning towards DM-MappersFolly :P

Well, we want a name that sounds interesting but something normal players will actually vote for...therefore I'd suggest something like MappersQuilt.

I'm pretty sure if you really want something people will vote for, you have to incorporate either Adren or Arena somewhere in the title.

40 Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:I'm working on the final touches of this giant map. Chavez, I hope you're almost done with your room.

Where is mr. Chavez??

I haven't heard from him in like two weeks I think. Plus he stopped making posts o.O
I'll send him a pm. If I don't hear anything from him by Thanksgiving or some time ahead I guess we might have to move on :'(
I don't even know if he is attaching his room to this map or not.

D2Boss wrote:Have we came up with a title yet?? Check out Karma's ideas here:
http://clandw.org/distribution/viewtopi ... a&start=60

I don't know about you but I'm leaning towards DM-MappersFolly :P

Well, we want a name that sounds interesting but something normal players will actually vote for...therefore I'd suggest something like MappersQuilt.

WailofSuicide wrote: I'm pretty sure if you really want something people will vote for, you have to incorporate either Adren or Arena somewhere in the title.

rofl!! XD
We can be cheap and make a name new comers will always pick:
DM-AdrenXPLvlFast
DM-SuperSafe
DM-YOU---YeahYou-----PickThisMap----ItHasAdrenaline----LotsandLotsofAdren---FreeXP---FreeLevelsToo----Vote4Meeeee-----orIWillKillDaOtherMaps----ftw
DM---11111hahahaOnTopOfMapList

But honestly, I'm okay if people don't vote for our map. I don't want this map to be picked continuously every time it becomes available for voting.
I guess we can do a quick vote soon ^.^

Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:Should we have miniboss??

If we do have a mini boss I think it should go to one of these two places:
Neutral zone:
I've created a room that branches off into 3 hallways (or four depending what Chavez does). It's about 1024 uu tall, & there's enough space to battle. If no one is at the room, the mini boss will teleport into a room, right??
-OR-
Shard's Room:
Shard is a giant stadium. It's fitting to place a boss there ^.^

As superchav discovered with 'Teh Base of Heroes', you can't tell the miniboss where to spawn - it spawns just like any other creature. I think it would be worth putting in though.

It matters where he spawns. You place in this MechTitan spawn where the miniboss will spawn. In one map, I placed the MechTitan 100 ft in the air, and he falls a hundred feet in game XD
I think what happens is that the MechTitan can teleport just like the luci or any other monster not doing anything.

40Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:Reload, I've attached your room & it fits nicely, but I'm sorry to say that your sniper mover isn't working for me. The thing is that once I moved your entire room, all movers are displaced. Doors & simple movers I can patch up easily, however the sniper mover has 24 keyframes & I have no idea where it goes.
I hate to say this but when Chavez sends us the copy (after he attaches his room), do you think you can reposition every keyframe once more time??

If Reload hasn't gone to the trouble of this yet, I discovered with my room that if you move the mover at position 0, everything stays relative instead of going back to the original place...

That's what I though as well. Apparently, whenever I displace the mover it shows up fine at first, but after compiling the map once or twice the mover moves back to the starting position.

40_Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:

Draco wrote:but it also allow's the sunlight lighting effects in which makes shards room and my room overly bright to the point where it was semi hurting my eyes lol

Luckly, Reload's room is basically unlit.
Your room seems to bit brighter than the original though. I don't think isolating your room will fix that since they are already separated zones with a lengthy buffer zone.
Shard isn't affected at all. Since he didn't place a fakebackdrop, sunlight actors fail to light up his room. I think Shards signs are a bit dark. Should we light them up alittle?

Personally I thought it was Reload's and Draco's which were too bright. If you want to brighten my signs, their light sources are Special Lit, so whatever you set it to it won't affect the rest of the room...or at least I hope it won't :)

That was the problem. I think my sunlight actors are making Draco's place a bit too bright. I think what I'll do is delete my sunlight actors & place individual bulbs for my outdoors.

40_Shards wrote:Couple of other errors: Water tunnel near your room

I'll take care of that :)

40_Shards wrote: Entrance to my room

I think I'll cover this up with a static mesh.

40_Shards wrote:Few other minor things:
I noticed the lighting on my movers has gone back to effectively unlit. When I figure out how to fix it I'll tell you.

Are you talking about the windows or the wave 16 movers. I'll take a peak at both movers though next time I edit this thing :)

40_Shards wrote:The tunnel between the neutral room and Reload's room is a bit long, and I was running out of oxygen near the end.

I could place scuba gear or I can force them to keep swimming :P
Either way, downing should cause any problems as long as there's a medic swimming with them.

I imagine players would hide in the 'grate room' too.

Which grate room?
The one at your entrance (blocking volumes there, can't hide under grated floors)
The one before Draco's entrance (same thing, blocking volumes)
The water fall area (they can hide, but it'll be utterly boring to sit for 45 mins)
That one room connecting my entrance hallways (This might be a decent fighting spot. I'll "cage" off the upper walkways if want me to).

40_Shards wrote:Could you change the ZoneInfo Location in my room to something like "40 Shards' Demolition Derby"? (no underscore btw)

Done.


I'm glad that this project isn't forgotten. I know we've started this thing at End of August & it should of been done back in October.
Things are moving slow, and I'm hoping things will speed up some time soon.

D2Boss wrote:

40 Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:I'm working on the final touches of this giant map. Chavez, I hope you're almost done with your room.

Where is mr. Chavez??

I haven't heard from him in like two weeks I think. Plus he stopped making posts o.O
I'll send him a pm. If I don't hear anything from him by Thanksgiving or some time ahead I guess we might have to move on :'(
I don't even know if he is attaching his room to this map or not.

Apparently he logged in earlier...not to put any pressure on you, but it's good to see you've resurfaced :D

D2Boss wrote:

D2Boss wrote:Have we came up with a title yet?? Check out Karma's ideas here:
http://clandw.org/distribution/viewtopi ... a&start=60

I don't know about you but I'm leaning towards DM-MappersFolly :P

Well, we want a name that sounds interesting but something normal players will actually vote for...therefore I'd suggest something like MappersQuilt.

WailofSuicide wrote: I'm pretty sure if you really want something people will vote for, you have to incorporate either Adren or Arena somewhere in the title.

rofl!! XD
We can be cheap and make a name new comers will always pick:
DM-AdrenXPLvlFast
DM-SuperSafe
DM-YOU---YeahYou-----PickThisMap----ItHasAdrenaline----LotsandLotsofAdren---FreeXP---FreeLevelsToo----Vote4Meeeee-----orIWillKillDaOtherMaps----ftw
DM---11111hahahaOnTopOfMapList

Lol! That reminds me, I must call my next version of Orb DM-0rbital_Invasion :P (which conveniently I'm trying to release on Sunday morning)

D2Boss wrote:

Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:Should we have miniboss??

If we do have a mini boss I think it should go to one of these two places:
Neutral zone:
I've created a room that branches off into 3 hallways (or four depending what Chavez does). It's about 1024 uu tall, & there's enough space to battle. If no one is at the room, the mini boss will teleport into a room, right??
-OR-
Shard's Room:
Shard is a giant stadium. It's fitting to place a boss there ^.^

As superchav discovered with 'Teh Base of Heroes', you can't tell the miniboss where to spawn - it spawns just like any other creature. I think it would be worth putting in though.

It matters where he spawns. You place in this MechTitan spawn where the miniboss will spawn. In one map, I placed the MechTitan 100 ft in the air, and he falls a hundred feet in game XD
I think what happens is that the MechTitan can teleport just like the luci or any other monster not doing anything.

Cool - I suggest my room then :toothy7:

D2Boss wrote:

40_Shards wrote:Few other minor things:
I noticed the lighting on my movers has gone back to effectively unlit. When I figure out how to fix it I'll tell you.

Are you talking about the windows or the wave 16 movers. I'll take a peak at both movers though next time I edit this thing :)

Wave 16 moving rings

D2Boss wrote:

I imagine players would hide in the 'grate room' too.

The water fall area (they can hide, but it'll be utterly boring to sit for 45 mins)

Ya, hopefully they won't, but on later waves then they might... :/


Also, I forgot to mention a couple of things in my last post: firstly, I still have no idea as to how to get into your room's camera secret room through the rock (just like in GiantWorlds). Secondly I forgot to thank you for fixing the commentator box in my room :thumbright:

Finally, I noticed you quoted me as 40_Shards, just in case you try and PM the wrong username :P (I can't access the old one anymore AFAIK)

40 Shards wrote:

D2Boss wrote:

40 Shards wrote:I haven't heard from him in like two weeks I think. Plus he stopped making posts o.O
I'll send him a pm. If I don't hear anything from him by Thanksgiving or some time ahead I guess we might have to move on :'(
I don't even know if he is attaching his room to this map or not.

Apparently he logged in earlier...not to put any pressure on you, but it's good to see you've resurfaced :D

He replied to my pm earlier. He said that his application was processed much earlier than he expect & he's already began training (won't specify what unless he granted me permission). Basically he won't have access to a computer more than 2-3 mins for this week. And he's going to disappear for the next THREE years!!! That's too much for me :(
We'll welcome him whenever he returns :)

40 Shards wrote:Also, I forgot to mention a couple of things in my last post: firstly, I still have no idea as to how to get into your room's camera secret room through the rock (just like in GiantWorlds).

Shard's you got mail. I won't blow the secrecy publicly ;)

40 Shards wrote:Secondly I forgot to thank you for fixing the commentator box in my room :thumbright:

oh no problem man :D

40 Shards wrote:Finally, I noticed you quoted me as 40_Shards, just in case you try and PM the wrong username :P (I can't access the old one anymore AFAIK)

I'll keep that in mind :P



I think it's best to move on then. Maybe Chavez can attach his room to the second (if there is a second) map project. Whenever I get some time available (my research paper is killing me DX ), I'll resume working on the Map Project. I'll patch up all the glitches in game (including deleting my sunlight actors)

I will get the super secret done, but the problem is that I have no idea what to do. I can be cheap & just place a million adren with super weapons, but let's be creative. If you have any ideas please pm me. Draco, plz pm to let me know where you want your secret button to go.

Have we decided the music yet?

Ya dont wanna say what it is i am doing, but not gonna be around for a long time so i will pull out of this and cya guys soon, didnt post when i logged on becos i only had time to reply to boss :)

D2Boss wrote:Have we decided the music yet?

I'll try some out while I'm playing

superchav wrote:Ya dont wanna say what it is i am doing, but not gonna be around for a long time so i will pull out of this and cya guys soon, didnt post when i logged on becos i only had time to reply to boss :)

Seeya whenever :salute: