SVA Practice info.
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DW_Snaggle
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The TeamSpeak client is a free download. Check out: http://sva.bcvisin.com for info on how to get the client & setup for the SVA TeamSpeak server. Welcome aboard. :occasion5:
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Welcome cams good to have you on board :cheers:
Quick questions Apex why wont you wear the SVA tag out side of our server ? are you ashamed to be seen with it ?
As for Vic i think iv made my point clear I like the "person" and having them on your team is a great help, attitude wise... yeah its questionable lol.
Quick questions Apex why wont you wear the SVA tag out side of our server ? are you ashamed to be seen with it ?
As for Vic i think iv made my point clear I like the "person" and having them on your team is a great help, attitude wise... yeah its questionable lol.
Aih PittaH TeH F00l !!!1!11
I believe this mess is exactly why Toxic dropped the SVA club idea. The situations where you feel like certain individuals are only throwing on the tag so they can take part in the fun for the night. This is why there was going to be some really small fee for that club idea. I don’t know what the hell a FARM clan is, but when I took the initiative to set this up I did not expect the SVAs to take it so seriously and become this tight group. I am not saying this is bad, in fact I am happy about it.
I designed these matches for the peeps who were already sporting the SVA tags. I also new of many "SVAs" on the server who just don't were the tags. So when they took interest and I gave out the info I took it that they wanted to step into this community. To phrase it the best I can: I setup the scrim for the great players who were already showing their dedication to the server, and because they showed it by wearing those tags for the many months before this came up I felt it was time to give them some appreciation back: in the form of these matches. This was NOT designed to let anybody join in on the fun every two weeks.
So with that said my position still stands. These scrims are for the SVAs who show that they are SVAs. I have no problem giving out the passwords and information to the new players who want to be apart of this community. Keep in mind there are a lot of SVAs who have not taken part in this yet. Those are the type of people this was for.
As for Vic, his comments in those screen shots are exactly why he is labeled as a dick around here. I don’t need to divulge any further as to how his Stat boosting tactics are no good for the team. Let’s try to leave the ranting about Vic so this thread does not become locked.
I hope it is clear as to what these scrims are for. If the SVAs want become closer and eventually become something more, by all means!!! From the general comments I am seeing, they are mostly a bunch of players who don’t really want to be in a clan, but enjoy playing on Spam Vikings and in these organized scrims.
I designed these matches for the peeps who were already sporting the SVA tags. I also new of many "SVAs" on the server who just don't were the tags. So when they took interest and I gave out the info I took it that they wanted to step into this community. To phrase it the best I can: I setup the scrim for the great players who were already showing their dedication to the server, and because they showed it by wearing those tags for the many months before this came up I felt it was time to give them some appreciation back: in the form of these matches. This was NOT designed to let anybody join in on the fun every two weeks.
So with that said my position still stands. These scrims are for the SVAs who show that they are SVAs. I have no problem giving out the passwords and information to the new players who want to be apart of this community. Keep in mind there are a lot of SVAs who have not taken part in this yet. Those are the type of people this was for.
As for Vic, his comments in those screen shots are exactly why he is labeled as a dick around here. I don’t need to divulge any further as to how his Stat boosting tactics are no good for the team. Let’s try to leave the ranting about Vic so this thread does not become locked.
I hope it is clear as to what these scrims are for. If the SVAs want become closer and eventually become something more, by all means!!! From the general comments I am seeing, they are mostly a bunch of players who don’t really want to be in a clan, but enjoy playing on Spam Vikings and in these organized scrims.
Namu
Last night practice was really fun. We went to Echo (which I had never played before), UCMP (good match there), Hollon (first trying to figure out details, and good 2nd match after figuring out the key of the strategy there) and Tricky (where we had lots of fun trying to get as many vehicles possible up on the tower).
At some point we had about 20~ piled up there. I'll be posting screenshots later tonight. Quite fun, but no fragging there. :clown:
Btw, it went great with the teamspeak proggie. Clean team communication.
Later on we went to the TAM server. I had never played there before, but it was fun and good change, even with Hornet kicking our asses every other round. :bom:
Can't wait for the real deal on the weekend against the entire crew. :)
At some point we had about 20~ piled up there. I'll be posting screenshots later tonight. Quite fun, but no fragging there. :clown:
Btw, it went great with the teamspeak proggie. Clean team communication.
Later on we went to the TAM server. I had never played there before, but it was fun and good change, even with Hornet kicking our asses every other round. :bom:
Can't wait for the real deal on the weekend against the entire crew. :)
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DW_ToxicWaste
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[quote="Camseven with Hornet kicking our asses every other round. :bom: [/quote]
Hornet is a n00b, and his mom dropped him on his head (on purpose). In fact she just did it the other day again :cyclopsani:
Anyway I wish everything did not ultimately degenerate into controversy.
The SVA tag was not even my idea. At the time, there were several other well established large servers out there, whose regulars started sporting "regulars tags." One day, some folks asked me about if we had one. I said no, but I could put it to a vote. I put up several options, including not having one. SVA won.
Any server has regulars. I don't need the SVA tag to know who most of them are. I know the names and in a lot of cases I know the people and I don't need to see an SVA tag to respect someone or treat them kindly. Everyone that plays here is welcome, treated equally with respect, and welcomed back, unless they prove they are not fit to be in public places.
As Namu stated, this was just an event (at the time, it was planned as a single event only) as a way to have some fun and get the SVAs more involved in organized playing, and get them more involved with us. We're not your typical clan. When we recruit people, we don't recruit skills first and people last. We recruit people first. We like the community that has formed here and we like the people. We WANT to be involved with them. The people chose to wear the SVA tags on their own. There are no requirements to wear them. And if you remove them when you go elsewhere, that's completely up to you. SVA is not a clan and does not have to follow "clan rules."
So as Namu states again, this SVA organization thing has really taken off, much more than even I expected. It has happened completely independently of the DW clan. We only like to be involved with them, and we like to have fun, and for them to have fun. That's what this server is here for. We have no other vested interest in the SVAs except as playing buddies, and as the people behind the tags. Nothing nefarious is going on, I promise you.
As for the comment regarding if there were no SVAs the server would just be another low populated server, well you're pretty much missing the point. Server regulars chose to play on a server regularly for whatever reason they chose, be it the rules, the other people, the maps, the gametype, etc. regardless of whether they are wearing tags or not, they will come back because they like playing here. Making a statement like that is exactly like saying "well if that server lost all its regulars, there would be no one playing there." You could say that about any other server out there regardless of what they have in their name. It's just that these folks decided on their own to sport the tag. They are showing their solidarity. And TBH the solidarity is deeper than I ever thought it was. This is perfectly demonstrated by the scrims and how seriously they are taking it.
We love the scrims, we love the server regulars (whatever you want to call them) and they love playing here and being part of this ccommunity. Nothing more, nothing less. Take away the SVA tags, and it changes nothing.
As for wearing the tags to get into the scrims, I am pretty much leaving that up to the SVAs themselves. I don't control these folks. They are taking pride in their new found organization and rightly so. If they decide to let someone particiapte or not, I'm going to leave that call up to them.
My only suggestion is that they treat each person on a case by case basis, and not be blinded by the lack of an SVA tag. If we are truly going to do this every couple of weeks, there's plenty of opportunity to get other people involved and I don't want them to become snobbish about this tag. Regardless of whether the person wears the tag, if they play on the server, and embody what you embody (friendship, sportsmanship, etc) it should not matter what their names are.
And if you would like to see these folks ultimately wear an SVA tag and wear it proudly, what better way to make that happen then to include them in the fun and show them what a wondeful bunch of folks you are.
Have FUN!
Rich (TW)
Hornet is a n00b, and his mom dropped him on his head (on purpose). In fact she just did it the other day again :cyclopsani:
Anyway I wish everything did not ultimately degenerate into controversy.
The SVA tag was not even my idea. At the time, there were several other well established large servers out there, whose regulars started sporting "regulars tags." One day, some folks asked me about if we had one. I said no, but I could put it to a vote. I put up several options, including not having one. SVA won.
Any server has regulars. I don't need the SVA tag to know who most of them are. I know the names and in a lot of cases I know the people and I don't need to see an SVA tag to respect someone or treat them kindly. Everyone that plays here is welcome, treated equally with respect, and welcomed back, unless they prove they are not fit to be in public places.
As Namu stated, this was just an event (at the time, it was planned as a single event only) as a way to have some fun and get the SVAs more involved in organized playing, and get them more involved with us. We're not your typical clan. When we recruit people, we don't recruit skills first and people last. We recruit people first. We like the community that has formed here and we like the people. We WANT to be involved with them. The people chose to wear the SVA tags on their own. There are no requirements to wear them. And if you remove them when you go elsewhere, that's completely up to you. SVA is not a clan and does not have to follow "clan rules."
So as Namu states again, this SVA organization thing has really taken off, much more than even I expected. It has happened completely independently of the DW clan. We only like to be involved with them, and we like to have fun, and for them to have fun. That's what this server is here for. We have no other vested interest in the SVAs except as playing buddies, and as the people behind the tags. Nothing nefarious is going on, I promise you.
As for the comment regarding if there were no SVAs the server would just be another low populated server, well you're pretty much missing the point. Server regulars chose to play on a server regularly for whatever reason they chose, be it the rules, the other people, the maps, the gametype, etc. regardless of whether they are wearing tags or not, they will come back because they like playing here. Making a statement like that is exactly like saying "well if that server lost all its regulars, there would be no one playing there." You could say that about any other server out there regardless of what they have in their name. It's just that these folks decided on their own to sport the tag. They are showing their solidarity. And TBH the solidarity is deeper than I ever thought it was. This is perfectly demonstrated by the scrims and how seriously they are taking it.
We love the scrims, we love the server regulars (whatever you want to call them) and they love playing here and being part of this ccommunity. Nothing more, nothing less. Take away the SVA tags, and it changes nothing.
As for wearing the tags to get into the scrims, I am pretty much leaving that up to the SVAs themselves. I don't control these folks. They are taking pride in their new found organization and rightly so. If they decide to let someone particiapte or not, I'm going to leave that call up to them.
My only suggestion is that they treat each person on a case by case basis, and not be blinded by the lack of an SVA tag. If we are truly going to do this every couple of weeks, there's plenty of opportunity to get other people involved and I don't want them to become snobbish about this tag. Regardless of whether the person wears the tag, if they play on the server, and embody what you embody (friendship, sportsmanship, etc) it should not matter what their names are.
And if you would like to see these folks ultimately wear an SVA tag and wear it proudly, what better way to make that happen then to include them in the fun and show them what a wondeful bunch of folks you are.
Have FUN!
Rich (TW)
I only posted my brief "chat" with Vic because of what was said previously in this thread. I didn't mean any disrespect at all. I ASSUMED by what has been said by Namu and some opinions of other SVA's that I would take that approach with Vic. Now I feel like an ass. I personally do not care if SVA's wear their tag all the time or not... I just hope they try to be part of the team and other people can tell that they want to be a part. That includes coming to practices when they can! I know it is hard to make the practices, but IMO we need to feel like a team, communicate, and organize so we can pulverize the DW's! If my post about Vic made me seem like the bad guy, it wasn't supposed to be that way. I just thought it would answer a few questions...
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DW_ToxicWaste
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I have no problem with what you posted regarding Vic. In my mind, Vic does not embody sportsmanship and friendship and would not meet the criteria to join in regardless of that tag.
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-- Well we just said a word here .-- a nice new word..
-- organization .. - So the SVA comunity is becoming and Organization .. Inside an organization can exist some basic rules , and that is what is going on-- .. The whole point here is they are becoming more organized ( and I really apreciate and respect the efforts of all this SVA's on getting it together ) and I see and understand the right of the SVA organization to ask some X guy who is trying to participate in their activities for X thing .. But also its only up the the SVA organization to acept or let the X guy take part on their activities depending as Toxic said.. their own judgemente based on the X guy beheavoir , and also is a responsability of that X guy to respond back to the organization - All this work of the Particular SVA's on getting things setup and in place ,, I surely think . gives the right' to the SVA 'organized comunity' to allow or deny the acces of the X guy '''To their ativities ;; again, as an organized comunity''' (xample= practices, scrims // not a xample= public server gaming - note: here is where the SVA judmente should apply)
My admiration and respect to everyone in the SVA comunity for first.. . Been so nice people and players ,, for posting in this forums , for getting to where you are now in organization terms , for finding the time to attend to practices , for all the care shown and for the individual response for what you all have created ... The SVA Organization ..
-- organization .. - So the SVA comunity is becoming and Organization .. Inside an organization can exist some basic rules , and that is what is going on-- .. The whole point here is they are becoming more organized ( and I really apreciate and respect the efforts of all this SVA's on getting it together ) and I see and understand the right of the SVA organization to ask some X guy who is trying to participate in their activities for X thing .. But also its only up the the SVA organization to acept or let the X guy take part on their activities depending as Toxic said.. their own judgemente based on the X guy beheavoir , and also is a responsability of that X guy to respond back to the organization - All this work of the Particular SVA's on getting things setup and in place ,, I surely think . gives the right' to the SVA 'organized comunity' to allow or deny the acces of the X guy '''To their ativities ;; again, as an organized comunity''' (xample= practices, scrims // not a xample= public server gaming - note: here is where the SVA judmente should apply)
My admiration and respect to everyone in the SVA comunity for first.. . Been so nice people and players ,, for posting in this forums , for getting to where you are now in organization terms , for finding the time to attend to practices , for all the care shown and for the individual response for what you all have created ... The SVA Organization ..
Hey ya'll.Namu wrote: I don’t know what the hell a FARM clan is,
I didnt mean to make a huge fuss about it just came out that way. Didn't think the term was already considered 'old school' but FYI I'll try to define a FARM CLAN.
The best analogy I can think of is in Major League Baseball (though I hate the sport) and the NHL. Each team in the NHL and the MLB owns 1 to 2 minor leauge teams. These teams are where they send their freshest recruits, they get to play the sport, learn a few things and hone their skills and hope fully, from a full team, just 1 or 2 players will eventually mature enough to play in the Major Leagues.
Similarly, back in the day (LOL!). Clans would set up farm clans for these purposes. If they see a player that they thought had potential, they would enlist them to their farm clan, so as to get a commitment from them before anyother clans. The player would then adapt their Farm clan tag, making it less likely for them to be recruited by other clans. The farm clans would practice, and have a sperate name and Identity from the parent clan. Every now and then, the farm clan and parent clan would scirm too. The farm clan is "coached" usually by a few senior members of the parent clan and their activities planned with the aide of the same member(s) too. The Farm clan for the most part is an autonomous organization but for serious matters, if need be, the decisios are made by the leaders of the Parent clan. Now if a member of the Farm clan becomes good enough, he is then asked to join the Parent clan. And thats about it. So can you see the analogies between the SVA's and Farm clans?
I guess I got abit confisued cuz during the first skirmish, I remeber Alpha, several times asking/ requesting those of us who hadn't worn the SVA tag to put it on to show DW our 'appreciation'. We did so out of respect. And I agree that during skirms, the SVAs should wear the SVA tag. But why wear it outside a skirmish?
To answer someone else's question (forgot who- sorry), no I am not "ASHAMED" of the SVA tag ( oh boy, when did I end up back in grade school/ peer pressure?). Im not really sure why but I like seeing my name clean. Maybe ive just been in too many clans and just dont want any affiliation for simplicity's sake. And no, I'm not trying to shop around myself to other clans either. Infact, as Toxic had previously mentioned, I'm one of those who really have no wish to be in a clan. Frankly games are for fun, taking out stress, and imagining your boss is the player you just pancaked with the manta.
And thats all I want, to keep it simple and fun. No politics, no organizational restrictions, no expectations, no dissapointments. Win or lose, just to have FUN. And thats exactly what I did in the 1st skirmish! We lost it all but to me it was a heckova fun rounda games. And in the long run, maybe a chance to bound with other SVAs.
In anycase, I hope my rantings haven't riled up anyone's emotions, cuz I never meant to.
Loose, fun and friendly - the way all GAMES should be PLAYED.
PEACE.
APEX.