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Read Up - Monsters Level Damage

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:34 am
by Ham
Hello all players, happen to find this and read this up. Now it confirm my understanding of this game.

Monster Level

Each player in the RPG has a level. For each level the player gets 10 points to spend on whatever skills they choose. To compensate for this, monsters will automatically get their level set based upon the lowest level player currently alive, and the wave number.

For invasion, the monster level = (LowestPlayerLevel * 0.34) + (WaveNo * 2), where WaveNo is 1 to 16. The monster level is set to the LowestPlayerLevel.

Monster Damage Bonus and Damage Reduction

Monsters do not choose different skills to buy. Instead, all the points they get are split equally between Damage Bonus and Damage Reduction. Since there are 10 points per level, a level 25 monster will have 125 Damage Bonus and 125 Damage Reduction. Note that although players are limited to a maximum Damage Bonus of 290 and Damage Reduction of 350, monsters do not have these limits. So a level 200 monster will have 1000 Damage Bonus and 1000 Damage Reduction.

How is Damage Bonus Used?

The general algorithm in the UT2004RPG is

Damage done = max(Weapon Damage * (1 + (DB - DR)/200), 1)

so for a weapon doing 100 damage, if the attacker's Damage Bonus is 200 and the defender's Damage Reduction is 50,

Damage done = max(100 * (1 + (200-50)/200), 1) = 175

In particular, if you have a high level monster with DR of 700, even if the player has maxed DB to 80,

Damage done = max(100 * (1 + (80-700)/200, 1) = 1.

:flower: (Edited to match Monster Mash server monster adjustment of 0.34)

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:19 pm
by DW_Ant
I guess it is more than just averaging the all the players' lvls is equivilant to the monsters' lvl.

@ high lvls: Protect the little ones. Your lives depend on it :P

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:36 pm
by DW_KarmaKat
D2Boss wrote:@ high lvls: Protect the little ones. Your lives depend on it :P

Indeed...those of us who've been around a while have been saying that frequently...but often to deaf ears!!! We definitely need lower level players to stay alive to give us a chance to get to Luci! :)

KKat
:flower:

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:12 pm
by DW_WailofSuicide
Magic weapons do a minimum of 15% damage regardless of Damage Reduction.

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:40 pm
by NickyNick
one question: why do the little raptors always seem to be a pain in the ass? It seems like I shoot them 592301875289 times and i get very little xp and take them down very slowly. is it the mp5 (weapon dmg doesnt hurt them or something?)

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:37 am
by DW_Ant
I guess it depends on Monsters dr.

It's a nice way of saying, "let the raptors chew ya up while you go shoot out da titans & queens." ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:53 am
by DW_WailofSuicide
NickyNick wrote:one question: why do the little raptors always seem to be a pain in the ass? It seems like I shoot them 592301875289 times and i get very little xp and take them down very slowly. is it the mp5 (weapon dmg doesnt hurt them or something?)
I assume you're talking about Shrikes.

They just have an inordinate amount of health, and a low points value.

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:04 am
by d2frob
D2Boss wrote:
@ high lvls: Protect the little ones. Your lives depend on it :P
also prooves why maps with secret rooms etc are no challenge to high levels as low levels stay alive the whole time ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:50 am
by DW_Mobius
WailofSuicide wrote:
NickyNick wrote:one question: why do the little raptors always seem to be a pain in the ass? It seems like I shoot them 592301875289 times and i get very little xp and take them down very slowly. is it the mp5 (weapon dmg doesnt hurt them or something?)
I assume you're talking about Shrikes.

They just have an inordinate amount of health, and a low points value.
I want to say that they also have issues with their hitboxes, but I may just be crazy.

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:20 pm
by DW_Ant
DW_Mobius wrote:
WailofSuicide wrote:
NickyNick wrote:one question: why do the little raptors always seem to be a pain in the ass? It seems like I shoot them 592301875289 times and i get very little xp and take them down very slowly. is it the mp5 (weapon dmg doesnt hurt them or something?)
I assume you're talking about Shrikes.

They just have an inordinate amount of health, and a low points value.
I want to say that they also have issues with their hitboxes, but I may just be crazy.
Na, Mobius. You're not the only one that think so. I've nulled shrikes many times, but whenever they seem to jump in place, my mp5 bullets just goes through them until they are back on ground.